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Empowering Military Spouses: Molly Rose Speed's Journey in the Virtual Assistance World
Discover the inspirational journey of Molly Rose Speed, an influential figure in remote work and virtual assistance, as she shares her path to success in a conversation on Sisters in Service. Molly Rose's personal story of navigating the challenges of military life and frequent relocations illuminates the struggles faced by military spouses. Her experiences led her to develop a thriving career in virtual assistance, offering her the flexibility to maintain a balanced life while her husband was deployed. Learn how she transformed these challenges into opportunities through her Virtual Assistant Academy, designed specifically to empower military spouses.
Our discussion explores the vital role of confidence and self-worth in establishing a successful career as a virtual assistant. We talk about the importance of recognizing your value and charging accordingly, a common hurdle for many in the industry. Molly Rose provides insights into the creation of a structured training program that equips virtual assistants with the necessary skills to find the right client fit. We also share success stories, such as Tina's impressive transition from a high-stress HR role to a lucrative career, illustrating the potential growth and the importance of continuous learning in this evolving field.
As the demand for virtual assistants continues to rise, we delve into the significance of community and support in entrepreneurship, and the benefits of setting boundaries for a balanced work-life routine. With the ongoing transformation of remote work, particularly amplified by COVID-19, the need for skilled virtual assistants has never been greater. Molly Rose highlights the resources available through her Virtual Assistant Academy and Virtual Assistant Management, emphasizing the advantages for military spouses and stay-at-home moms seeking flexible career paths. Join us for an enlightening episode filled with practical strategies and inspiring stories from the world of virtual assistance.
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Speaker 1:You know me I am the freaking fabulous Kat Corchado and in today's episode I am speaking with Molly Rose Speed. She is how can I say a game changer in the world of remote work, entrepreneurship and the power of virtual assistants. She's the founder of Virtual Assistant Management and the mastermind behind the Virtual assistant academy. So, if you don't know, molly Rose was a military spouse or probably still is. And the reason I was very interested in having Molly Rose on is because, you know, I've been through being a military brat, military spouse and then active duty military, and so I think it's very important to understand how the military affects military spouses, and people always ask me what's harder being the military member or the spouse. They're both hard, they're just different. So I don't know if Molly Rose will agree with me, but let me welcome her. Molly Rose to Sisters in Service.
Speaker 2:Hi Kat and everyone listening. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 1:Thanks for the great intro, of course. So what is your take on what's harder? I just think they're different. I think they're both hard, they're just very different in different ways.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the the military service member has it, has it hard. They're leaving normal life and going off, oftentimes deploying, and that's a challenge on its own for those that have to go through that and then the ones that are left at home. We're kind of just left with everything else. I always say, often like we're living two different lives when we're doing that and it's just, they're both challenging, yeah absolutely.
Speaker 1:They're very challenging. And I saw my dad was in the military too and I saw this firsthand when my dad went to Vietnam and my mother had to be you know what I call chief cook and bottle washer. She was anyway, but now she had to handle more things because my dad was away, and the stress that that put on her. But then the opposite actually happens when he comes back and my mom is handling everything and my dad's like why am I here? You know, because she's used to dealing with all the things. But so that could be a dilemma in and of itself. So I'm going to ask you, molly Rose, you know when you were, are you still? Are you still a military?
Speaker 2:wife a spouse, yeah, my husband's active reserves, though. Are you still? A military wife, a spouse?
Speaker 1:Yeah, my husband's active reserves though, so he's out of active duty as of a year ago. So what was it like for you just for our listeners, you know, because a lot of people can resonate with what you've been through what was it like, you know, to travel to all the places that your husband went or your significant other, that, um, where you had to kind of drop what you were doing and just, you know, go along. You know what I mean, Cause I feel sometimes I feel like it was like that's like, oh, we're going to Germany. You're like, oh God, okay, that's my dream.
Speaker 2:Fine. So, um, I think adapting when you move is is a huge deal, and and all a lot of military bases are not in metropolis, they're not in places where there's tons of industry and we can just take our degree with us and and start over they're always these, these, always.
Speaker 2:Where did you find this land? In the middle of new mexico, thank you, thank you. You know, no talk about retention, right, um, uh? But? And then there's also the stigma of corporations, companies, local businesses that don't want to hire military spouses because they know that we're going to leave, or probably going to leave, and, and sometimes we don't. And so I remember my first job. I interviewed for second, I took my ring off because I didn't want to talk about it, and I know that sounds terrible. And then, when I got hired a few months into the job, they're like whoa, you're married, you didn't have that. And I'm like, no, because I had heard so many stories about military spouses and it shouldn't matter, they shouldn't be able to hire that way. So I do think it's a huge problem and that's why I do what I do now.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. How did you get into virtual assistance? Was it an idea, was it something you did and then thought, wow, I could give this information to other military spouses.
Speaker 2:So I started this career 13 years ago. My husband was on his fourth deployment of 12. He's done several and I wanted to travel. I wanted to. You know, if he was gone for four months, I had this flexibility to go stay at home with my family or go to travel, travel Europe. I was a big solo traveler and then, when he was home, I wanted to be home. I wanted to be able to be home, cook dinner, enjoy the weekends, enjoy that extended time off that you get after a deployment all those important things, all the things, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so I quit cold turkey and became what we now know as a virtual assistant. Back then that wasn't a thing that wasn't as well known as it is today, so I really didn't know what I was getting myself into. And it started with I went to a conference where the word entrepreneur was presented and again went to business school, but that wasn't talked about. That wasn't like a side certification you can get now, and I learned for the first time that you can use your own skills and services and sell them to others without a W-2, without having that job over your head. So that's what I started doing, and then it spiraled into teaching others to do the same.
Speaker 1:So for our audience and for me also, what does a virtual assistant actually? I hear assistant and I'm like, yeah, I could do that. And I'm like, well, maybe no. What does a virtual assistant do Normally.
Speaker 2:An online business owner or supporting someone that works digitally online can be a podcasts and load files and create PDFs, create presentations, help with branding everything under the sun a virtual assistant can do. Now, do they all do that? No, but that's what's so beautiful about this career. We can start with that general admin and then kind of grow into where we either have a strong skill set or we have a strong interest in doing something else. It's been really great.
Speaker 1:If you were looking for a virtual assistant, and what would? What would the because virtual assistant can mean, like you said, anything? How would I know if I had the skills to be a virtual assistant? Would it say in the description, or how would I know that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'd say 80 to 90% of people can be assistants. I think the ones that really set themselves apart are the ones that are very organized. Your own life doesn't have to be organized but you can do it for someone else. Because that seems to be the joke we can do it for others but not for ourselves. Type that, type A personality. And then two things that are also extremely important and I love this Maria Forleo. She's a big business coach in the space. She always says everything's figureoutable, so having that solution, I like her already.
Speaker 1:When someone says a word like that, I'm like, I like her, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:She wrote a whole book on it, and that's probably the best thing when I find someone that's like oh, I don't know how to do this, but I'm going to figure it out. That's those ones. Are, you know, the unicorns in the mix? Yeah, that's gold.
Speaker 1:Because nowadays it's hard to find anybody. You know that that'll look at a problem, and I guess that's kind of why you like military spouses, because there's they have that stick to it-ness. Is that a word? Yes, yes, you know that. Okay, let me figure this out, because you military spouses figure out stuff all the time. When their spouses leave, you have to be the one to figure it out. So what better way than to share this virtual assistance with other military spouses Because, like you said, they're gold most of them.
Speaker 2:That's a great call out. Sometimes I have to do a little confidence coaching for new VAs and I use that all the time. I'm like your husband just left. Look at what you're doing. You're running a household, you're figuring out a base life, you're doing the paperwork, you're paying bills that you never did before. You're all of it.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, and not to mention, you know certain things that happen that you can't rely on your spouse because you have to figure it out yourself. You know, I saw that firsthand with my mom, so it's I love the fact that you, that you do that, you know because you can figure it out.
Speaker 1:As you go along and and I love that, I love being able to look at a pump People say, well, I can help you. I'm like, okay, but let me see how much this I can figure out for myself. You know, I'm one of those people too Great. And so Think about when you were first starting, you know, became a virtual assistant and you're like, wow, I could probably get others, you know. So you founded the virtual assistant academy. Where was that mindset? You'd been doing virtual assistants, you were teaching others to do it, and then you said I need a, I need an academy, I need something where I can bring all these people in and all at the same time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I say one too many Starbucks dates. Later I was having military spouses Can I, can I buy you coffee? Can I buy you coffee? And I was like what, sure, we can go have a chat because they saw me working for myself when I wanted. Sure, we can go have a chat because they saw me working for myself when I wanted. I was making good money at the time and I was traveling. I would just pick up and go and work for my laptop and that worked great. And so a lot of them were moms and they're like I need something I can do while I drop my kid off from school and then I can plug in and use my brain. I can't have a full-time job, all of those, those questions. And so I started teaching them one-on-one, like, okay, this is how we can get you started. Let's get your first client. I'll help you along the way. Any questions? And then just realized they kind of quickly got it and took it over.
Speaker 2:Um, yes, and so, as any good course creator does, you teach something multiple times and then you realize, oh, okay, I have something here. I need to package this up and create a good training program. So that's what births a virtual assistant academy, and it's gone through several iterations and now we have a certification program. Because what I was learning also, yes, about the space is a lot of business owners would say, oh, I've had VAs, I got burned or this didn't work out, and all of this. I'm like you're not getting the right VA, you're not getting someone that's been trained. A lot of times it's someone overseas which has its place. The kind of VAs that we work with are military spouses, and with that usually they're pretty trustworthy, well vetted, and so it just created a great opportunity for that kind of partnership. I think you have to go through.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like being a personal trainer. I'm in the fitness realm and sometimes the first one isn't the best one and I think you have to go through two or three before you figure out what you don't want in a trainer or even in a virtual assistant, so that you know what you do want. So, molly Rose, what was the biggest challenge you had, like when you first got into being a virtual assistant? What was your biggest hurdle?
Speaker 2:I'd say my biggest personal hurdle and I see it still within my VAs is charging your worth right, like seeing the value. Oh God, that's so hard. I left so much money on the table and now I won't let my VAs do it. We're going to get your investment back real fast at getting certified. So, um, I think that was it just just kind of and then not having boundaries, kind of letting that client just Well.
Speaker 1:I think that can apply to anyone who's in the entrepreneur field, you know, because you know we're trying to get clients or whatever, and you know we're like, oh, we'll charge this much. And you know my business coach would be like, oh, no, we're charging this much. And we're like, yeah, we can't do that. But I think you know a lot of people, a lot of entrepreneurs was specifically anyone affiliated with the military? We just, we just don't want to. You know what I mean and we feel as though nobody will pay that. But I think you get what you pay for. So if you are an amazing VA, then people kind of go, oh yeah, okay, she or he is really good. Now I understand that what I'm paying for. So when you were getting your academy together, the virtual assistant academy and I'm sure that was a lot of steps involved to get everything that you thought initially you wanted in this academy what was the biggest hurdle for getting this off the ground?
Speaker 2:Oh boy. So the academy is split up in two different parts. There's the business side, where we literally teach you how to run your own business, start an LLC if you decide to go that path, and you're your own business owner. So that takes a certain kind of mindset and also the operations behind it. But then there's the tech side, and I think that the biggest challenge and it still is.
Speaker 2:Before I hopped on, I was actually mapping out a new little training course is software, and especially in the past seven to eight years since I've had this program has just taken off. There's a new thing for everything, and so we we as virtual assistants kind of need to be up to speed on that. So I'm constantly adding to that tech accelerator, if you will, of of all the tech that we all need to know, and so that's kind of been the biggest, I'd say, thing to keep up with. And then making sure the VAs go back in learn your new skill this week or whatever that looks like for their schedule, because you are always learning and evolving and that also adds more value and allows you to charge more, so it's always a good incentive to do that.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. It's like having a lot of things in your toolbox when someone says, hey, have you ever worked with blank? And they go yes, and then it's like automatic, you know, oh, how much do you charge? You know. I love that because I think also, even as an entrepreneur I'm not in the virtual space as far as VA is concerned, but I think that you always have to, you know, be learning. I think when you're learning, you're growing, and whether it's growing as an individual, growing your business, I think it's huge. Yeah, so I know that your academy has helped quite a few people About 150 is probably, not more. Can you share a success story that stands out to you, someone that maybe started off horrifically and then just blossomed? Or can you share something with our?
Speaker 2:audience. Yes, let's see what. Which one do I want to go to? Okay, so we have a VA. Her name is Tina and she used to be an HR and I remember she would a prior military spouse of my same squadron. I remember she would call me and say Molly Rose, I can't do it anymore. I'm making $15 an hour. I'm running an HR department staffing agency and I'm literally crying every day. I have a baby at home, all the things, and I'm like you really just need to stop doing that and do this. But that leap right there, that, oh, do I trust myself? Do I believe in myself to be able to do this? We had to get through that and let's just start with one client on the side and do that. And since that one client, that led to the next and led to the next, allowed her to quit her corporate job and double her you know her 15 years was easily $30 an hour.
Speaker 2:Right after that, she's now gone on to get her project management degree, paid for by the military, at a predominant school in North Carolina that we all know, and then now she's working for a startup making six figures. Never, ever, ever would she have thought that this would be her path or her life. And I'm like you can do this all because he built these skills, decided to get a project management advanced degree and then go and take it to the big, the big leagues kind of right, the big corporation, so. So that's been really, really cool to be able to see that. I love that.
Speaker 1:Now I noticed that you had said something about you put updated information into the academy. How do you ensure you know that people actually finish like they actually, you know, do what they're supposed to be doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, we have assessments inside the course. So, for example, canva is a graphic design tool that's available. It's amazing if you've never heard of it for anyone, even if you're a mom making invites for your kid's birthday side note, and so, for example, we'll test them with a brand that they have to create some social media graphics and they upload them as an example. Or, you know, you do screen records of them, setting up a funnel or whatever it is, or answer some questions of how you would handle this, this task. So that's kind of a good stop gap. And then also we have a community. So if you do go through the program, you're not on your own, like my goal is to get you paying clients, like get you off. This isn't just to have the knowledge. And so we do a community call every month where we're always checking in but we're also there, you know, if you have any questions, or making sure everybody's well vetted and ready to go.
Speaker 1:And I think that's important A lot of people who start off by themselves and, by the way, no one becomes an entrepreneur by themselves. You just don't. You can, but you're going to need like you said, molly Rose, a community. You're going to need people who you can bounce stuff off of. And one of the reasons I was very hesitant to get a business coach because I'd been burned a couple of times. But I took my own advice. I said let me go with my gut instinct and what I love about my business coaches she says things like ask until you're clear and you may ask the same question 25 times. Yes, that was me Until I go. Oh, and then the light bulb goes off.
Speaker 2:And I love that.
Speaker 1:So I love the fact that you have a community, a place where you can ask questions, and even in the community. Sometimes people in the community can ask the question and someone in the community can answer the question. Yes, I love that too. That's amazing. Oh man, this is great, all right, so in any business anyone who's an entrepreneur you want a business where you can have a life of freedom and fulfillment. You don't want your business to own you. So how do you do that? How do you make sure that we are not answering you know calls at eight o'clock at night or how we're not on our? You know what I mean. How do you get that across to your VAs?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I find myself saying a lot we teach people how to treat us, we teach people how, or we train people how, to treat us, both same in the same. So I've done this in the past and the beauty of my experience is I've probably done it every wrong way so that I can tell them exactly what not to do. So, for example, I had client for years and I would always answer the phone. Always it didn't matter if it was the middle of dinner.
Speaker 2:I was on a date with my husband, I was at church and I had to step out. I just always thought there was a fire and there never was. So he became used to that. So when I didn't answer, or I did say hey, hey, it's an eight to five kind of window here that caused problems because you have to change. So that's extremely important. How you start relationships with clients and vice versa is super, super important. Um, and and I can't echo that enough of kind of having those boundaries, and so we kind of walk you through an exercise of deciding you know what are your work. Of course, things come up and we're going to be helpful, but you got to have that stiff boundary.
Speaker 2:And the other thing especially those that are listening, if you are a business owner or a VA that I find really important for boundaries is your, your communication channels. So if you're getting hit up as a virtual assistant via this has happened to me Google chat, text message, phone calls in Asana, which is a project management tool, via Voxer those are five different things. Where I'm getting tasked, I'm bound to miss the ball drop. Something like it doesn't make sense. Yes, yeah, so you really have to define what those two communication channels are. How are you being tasked? How are things being followed up on so that it just works beautifully for both parties involved.
Speaker 1:I have a friend of mine who she calls boundaries. She says she's Australian, so she calls them boom gates, boom gates. I love it and someone else says when she really needs to not be bothered with phone calls, she calls it going to the airport. You know how? You have airplane mode on your phone, yeah, and she clicks that on. When she needs like an hour or so of no one interfering so that she can get the work done, she calls it going to the airport.
Speaker 2:I love that. That's funny. I used to always say my favorite place on earth was an airplane, because no one could get to me.
Speaker 1:And now now they can. Well, now they can. Yeah, I know, dang it, molly Rose, with the, with the rise of remote work, because ever since COVID it's it's been up and coming, it's been huge. How do you see the role of virtual assistants evolving in the next few years? Do you feel like it's going to be huge, even more so than it is now?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So COVID really helped our industry because people learned to work virtually, and it's okay. It all works beautifully, actually even more efficient. So, with where we're headed, with AI, with business owners starting businesses right and left the need for a competent operations person, which is what I get my VAs to that kind of run, the backend of someone's business, is so needed and so desired that, if this is of interest, this is a really good time to do it. You just got to commit to being kind of the best of the best and you'll you'll do really, really well in this career field.
Speaker 1:That's very promising. You know what I mean. It's, I think, a lot of people. Even when I started my business, I knew I didn't want to brick and mortar. I knew that I've been going to brick and mortar places for years. I'm too, you know. It's not that I'm too old. I was going to say I was too old. Sorry, yvonne, yvonne's one of my she's like. You need to stop saying that I just don't. I don't want to do it anymore. I'm getting to a place where I just don't want to do that anymore. So what advice would you give to anyone a military spouse or moms who are considering a remote career but might be hesitant to kind of take that first step?
Speaker 2:Yes. So two things to share here. The first is I've helped 85% of my VAs I've trained are military spouses, so I have 150 and growing. That's a lot, that's a lot.
Speaker 2:And they're doing really, really well. And they all kind of started in that same like can I do this? Oh, I don't know, I don't have any skill sets. I'm like, well, five minutes with me and I'll pull all your skill sets out of you and then give you a training path on what to do. And then you have a list this long, you have the skill sets, and I think it just comes down to kind of stepping into that role for yourself, Like I'm going to take this on, I'm going to have my own business, I'm going to charge my worth, I'm going to get amazing clients and hold that space for that to evolve Because, as I just said before, this is so, so needed in the industry. Everybody's dying for great help and you could be that next person. And then the other thing I want to share is to create a career around your life, not a life around your career.
Speaker 1:Say that again, Molly Rose, please.
Speaker 2:Create a career around your life, not a life around your career. So don't think you have to go get that nine to five or work at a corporation and that's the only path. I think. As military spouses, we demand and desperately need to have the career around our life with the flexibility that we need, and this is a perfect opportunity for that, or something like this.
Speaker 1:I think we need something that we can call ours. Yeah, you know, you've got, you know the military side of the life. You have your other life, with family or kids or whatever. But you need something kind of go this is mine, this is what I do, and you can pick it up and move with it.
Speaker 2:That's what I love.
Speaker 1:It's. You know, virtual is just amazing. And so, molly Rose, if I were looking for a virtual assistant, you know where would I go. How do I find you?
Speaker 2:Yes, so we have a I didn't mention this yet we have a placement agency of our certified virtual assistants. It's called virtualassistantmanagementcom is where you can find us, and we have a boutique service where we consult with you. It's ran by military spouses and then we place you with the best fit and watch and manage that going forward, to make sure that everything's aligned and you get the best of the best to support your business.
Speaker 1:I love that and I'll make sure that's in the show notes also. And so if I'm on social media, and how do I reach out to you, like if I hadn't heard your website? I see you on social media, it sounds cool. Is there an email where people can reach out to you or is it through that website also?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Molly Rose, speed on all social channels. You can direct message me if you have any questions and I'll get you to the right spot. Virtualassistantmanagementcom has a book, a discovery call right there and you can manage that. And virtualassistantacademycom is where you go to get training. On my website I host a masterclass all the time, usually every week, just explaining more about this career to military spouses, stay-at-home moms, any individual looking to get into this, and that can be found at MollyRoseSpeedcom. So just give you a lot of info there.
Speaker 1:Sounds really easy, I mean, just like I don't really have to do too much. So, molly Rose, this question is specifically for you. So you have a lot going on. So how do you balance the demands of running virtual assistant management, the academy, your personal commitments, and all of that without melting I have melted how do you?
Speaker 2:take care of you, so I practice what I preach. I have an assistant, and that's super important.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:Yes, she's amazing. And then I'm really committed to my schedule. So I tell this to my community I don't work on Fridays, I just it's the liberty that I have of this career and that's really important to me. And then I I don't start my work day till nine, so I'm allowed, allowed. See, this is old thinking. I have the freedom to go work out, go walk my dog, do something creative, and I and I own that time until nine o'clock in the morning. Then I dive in. So it's all about just creating that rhythm and those best practices for yourself.
Speaker 1:I think that's what I'm trying to get into now, because in the fitness industry I would take 6am clients, you know and you know, go to the studio, come home, go back to the studio and I'm like, no, this isn't I need to, I'm pulling. I'm in that moment where I'm pulling back a little bit more.
Speaker 2:You know because.
Speaker 1:I just think it's important and I think it's time for me to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and bulk scheduling, especially as a fitness in the fitness space, huge for your lifestyle.
Speaker 1:Huge yes. So last question in what ways do you think the growing demand for virtual assistants is impacting the broader job market and opportunities for remote work?
Speaker 2:So I'm going to use AI because I think that's something that hasn't been talked about. A lot of the questions I get are around AI is going to take over the VA market, and I actually think it's going to help the VAs that really understand what's going on and really allow us to step into the industry in a big, big, big way. So, with the direction we're going, I think assistants are going to be extremely needed, especially if we work with artificial intelligence not against it and it doesn't replace us, and so those of us that can add that to our toolbox are going to be really, really marketable and needed, because we still need the brains behind the business.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I don't think there's anything out there that you could just say okay and go. There's something you have to do. Molly Rose, this has been fascinating for me because it's like oh, this is really cool. Do you have anything coming up or anything that you want people to know about?
Speaker 2:Yes. So I have a masterclass. I'm sure I will when this releases as well. On Thursday at noon, if you go to my website, you can opt in and get a deep, deep dive into this career and I teach you a little bit more about that. And then, for those of you that have ever heard of Kajabi, I'm creating a Kajabi certification for assistance or if you're a business owner that uses it. It's my favorite software on the planet. It simplifies everything into one platform, so I'm creating my own certification of that platform because there's a huge demand for that. So just another way of how we're adding more tools to our team's toolbox as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love Kajabi. My business coach was like you know. She was a Kajabi person before anybody knew how to spell Kajabi or even.
Speaker 1:Kajabi was, and you know she, you know she know she was like oh, yeah, you want to do kajabi. I was like well, she goes, hear me out. She goes, everything that you need is right there. You don't want to pull something from, because sometimes they don't play well together. Yeah, pull something from one place, it's something for, and they don't talk to each other and it's a hot mess. So, uh, kajabi, thank you. Um, I hope you're. You're okay with that little plug.
Speaker 2:I'm sure they are.
Speaker 1:They're my friends, molly, it was just a bit of fascinating conversation. Thank you so much for saying yes to being on the podcast today and for everyone listening. Please stay safe, take care of each other Until next time and please remember that it's never too late to start your impossible. Thank you.